(The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. Cries racism when pointed out that is an idiot. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. Hi Jim Its become a turn off. I figured I could get an AR rifle with Sub MOA accuracy that could maybe hit 2 birds with 1 stone. Jim great reviews. I have been looking at the Browning BAR for years, its a great gun, but I would really like to have an AR format. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. Is it felt more? Seems like the bergara barrel profile would be better for larger cartridges. Theres something cool coming. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. Loved seeing some rifles I hadnt seen vids on with the Sako and getting your full thoughts. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. Excellent 3/4 MOA accuracy with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo, QD Flush cups and picatinny embedded in the stock, Available in all the most popular chamberings for custom rifles (including 7 PRC), I personally would have preferred that they went with a more modern vertical grip, I wish there were an arca rail on the bottom of the forend for connecting to a tripod. . There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review - Guns and Ammo Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester - Shooting Times The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? Keep the vids coming, I look forward to seeing them. Seekins is another I looked into but judging by the lack of representation in reviews I\m not confident in it either. Sorry its been so long since I have followed up on this, but didnt want to post on this rifle till I had some time with it and straightened out a problem Ive been having with my scope. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. I am stuck between the tikka t3x and the Bergara b14. Using Burris Zee rings, I just applied a thin layer of silicone sealant inside the rings and remounted the scope. However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. The rings came with friction paper. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . Doesnt do it when there is no round in the chamber. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. Went on my first hunt (elk) this October. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. Bought a new rifle today.a Franchi | Outdoor Board - TigerDroppings Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. and not hold up good with the recoil? Have you reviewed the werkman? Pls recommend as I need a rifle under 1500 $ including Scope for shooting upto 600 Yards with cheaper ammo to practice more. Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. DK. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Amway if anyone has one opinions please. Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. Zero quality control issues. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). These are deal breakers. To this day when I pull that out for fun it still shoots tight groups. Hi, I really enjoy your reviews on YouTube. Did you pick up the Seekins? What? Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. can you give me your thoughts on Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. Overall Length: 42.3 inches Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. Those are cool, but very heavy guns. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. Any tips on bullet weight and powder brand? I absolutely love the 2020 waypoint! The action is a little sticky at the back because its a 2-lug so theres a little play at the back if you arent pushing straight. Regards kjetil A B Strandengen. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. Thanks! Have you reviewed one yet? Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. Hello I love your videos and your reviews the only comment I have is that the savage 110 ultralite does not have the accustock. Not many have been around since they are new this year. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. My assumption has been that given the limited rifles and ammos out, the x-bolt with browning ammo would have to work well together right out of the box. So where are you from originally and where are you now..Im thinking not the US. In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. I\m in northern Arizona and hunt in everything from dense forest to open desert, shots rarely over 400 yards. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. 7mm mag, 300 Win mag and 30-06. The internal box magazine holds four rounds. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. Probably going to be the Waypoint. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. To wit: 1. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. Franchi Momentum Rifles on Sale - Buy Now! - SCOPELIST.com Dont get me wrong. Really enjoy your channel and dialogue on your reviews. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD. Any thoughts? I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. I also have ignored the Winchester M70 for exactly the reason you mentioned. Its one of the best 3 out of 8 rifles we tested in this price range. Hes not huge. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Thanks, I enjoy watching you on YouTube and its really nice to see your reviews before purchasing guns and related stuff. a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. JavaScript is disabled. It seems to boast a sturdier stock. I am looking for a new rifle, and am looking at the Franchi Momentum Elite, was looking for any input by those of you that have one. From afar it looks pretty standard, but it does set itself apart in a few ways. I love to hunt white tail deer in Arkansas. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Thanks and keep up the great content! I still think the 2020 Waypoint is just a better gun overall. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . Bergara B14 Hunter? Hey there Jim. Id like to see a comparison between all the weather resistant advertised rifles, quality of weather protection materials, pros and cons of the different coatings or metals. Love your content man, great job building the channel and the webpage. I load for better, but what would you choose? Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. Jim, between the Savage 110 Ultralight and the Weatherby Mark V which would you pick for accuracy? Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. The deciding factor for me was the trigger, and that 3 of my buddies shoot the Savage. NRA Gun Of The Week: Franchi USA Momentum Elite Varmint For my boy. I am looking at it in 243 but cant decide between that and x bolt. Its incredibly well built. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. A shiny one. Thank you and keep up the great job! If you go slow while trying to be quiet in a hunting situation, it may not feed right. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. and see how it stacks up next to the high end factory rifles. I really like the trigger feel, but it is a little heavy. Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. . Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. Or even at a much higher price range. Hello Jim, great article. franchi momentum anyone got one? | The Stalking Directory Thanks for such a speedy response. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. Appreciate the comment. Same for Austria and Glock. Just hasnt been available. Again not a spot of rust. The Winchester Model 70 should be the rifle you compare all the others too. Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? P.S. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Bought a vanguard series 2 in 270cant wait to shoot it put a leupold 3x9x50 ..I have 1400.00 in it first expensive gun Ive ever owned.wish me luck, The rifle you are selling that is under $350 thats quiet what caliber is it and who makes it need more information please thank you. A lot of states dont allow semi-autos for big game hunting so check your regs. With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Problem is , Im not sure it is practical to spend so much on a custom for some folks. Thanks. #1. Would this interest you? 99% sure the next rifle is the sig cross but real question is 6.5 cm or .308 I cant decide. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. Way sub-MOA. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Interested in loading this cartridge. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. Saving a penny by not buying grease and oil costs you hundreds of dollars in rust repair. HOWEVER, since recording that review Ive also had the opportunity to hunt a good bit. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. I am between a Bergara B-14 Hunter and the Weatherby Vanguard. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. Keep up the good work. I like the cleaner lines without the mag sticking out. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Would love to hear your review and/or thoughts on military surplus and/or rifles you and friends first started on. I have a Momentum elite varmint in 224 Valkyrie. Hold on to it. The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. it just feels right. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. 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Well, I picked up a momentum elite in .308, and absolutely love it so far, still deciding on a scope to go on it, but cant wait to get to shooting it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. Your email address will not be published. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. I see that you really like the Savage, but I was wondering if you have shot the Howa? I was unaware of the QC issues with the Cross. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. I do like the Weatherby rifles as well as Tikkas. or browning. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. I still love wood stocks. I dont own one. I have played with many of the rifles you have. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. I mean, I realize you use supersonic ammunition and would have liked to have heard how home-rolled subsonic ammo performed. The scope I bought is a Sea Adler, 3x9x40. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. I like the action of the Howa better but the Proof barrel on the Savage. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. Can you review the Sako S20 or why havent you done it yet? My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Wow, what a shooter! Love you work and your research is unparalleled. An XBolt in 6.8 Western may be a great option. Agreed on the MarkV. The gun feels good in hand and the trigger feels great. Sure, its not always possible. How is it Franchis fault again? I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. Performance is really good. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. bolt throw. I just wish there was a better feeling about the Ridgeline. A very solid four stars here for the Franchi Momentum bolt-action rifle. Likely sub-half-MOA. Hi Jim, The action quality, as well as the barrel, produces a very accurate rifle. Adjustable from 2 pounds to 4 pounds, my sample fell right in the middle of that range. In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Jim, based on your reviews and several others, Id really like go with the 6.8 Western. Seems that they manage to work loose occasionally. I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. 5. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. Ive fallen in love. I saw your video on the 7mm prc and considered waiting till they came out. Things happen and every animal is different, but I feel like its my duty to show that respect. I agree with you 100 percent it is a home run for Springfield!!! Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? I really like the stock design. The trigger however appears to be decent and I like the one piece bolt but I think the internal magazine is a deal breaker for me. Do you think this is normal business practice ? And I need it in a shorter stock. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? If youre patient and know what youre doing. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. It has the Accufit stock, but not the Accustock with the aluminum rail system. Thanks, Joe. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. I am looking to buy a new rifle and Im between the Franchi Momentum Elite and the Weatherby Vanguard MeatEater edition mainly because of availability. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! How Franchi Redesigned the Momentum Elite - The National Interest Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. Then you can go pick up in your local store in just a couple days and do the government paperwork and walk away with it. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. Seller: Ammo And Arms. The one I tested was in Badlands camo, and is probably the most common edition I see on store shelves. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. Jim. I might add when I got back to the car even with all that grease and oil on my gun I still sprayed it down with WD40 and again when I got it home and dried everything off. Chambered in .308 Winchester, the author's Franchi Momentum has a 22-inch barrel with a threaded muzzle and a black synthetic stock with a recoil pad and integral sling-swivel studs. Obviously your not going to buy one move on. The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. All things equal I dont say that lightly. Jim love your channel. I have found a lot of draw backs such as a cramped magazine box that when I tried to seat bullets out there was no room in the magazine to do so therefore I had excess bullet jump into the throat of the barrel, especially older barrels with slightly eroded throats and not being able to seat the bullet out sometimes does not give you the best accuracy. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. Any help deciding? Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. Would like a rifle that print a sub MOA with factory ammo. What about the Winchester Model 70? Its actually a piece of cake. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. I have been looking for a carbon barrel rifle in a .308 due to ammo availability. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. Weight: 6.6 pounds Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? Yeah, the Reaper is pretty awesome. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. There are quality inexpensive rifles being made, but if you step up into the $500-$1,000 price range, almost every option will shoot accurately and have more consistent quality control. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". Buy FRANCHI MOMENTUM For Sale Price - New and Used - In Stock Nor did it entirely love the excellent Hornady Black ammo, putting two rounds through the O that I was aiming at and three in another very tight group some distance away.
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